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Hello Tom, great to hear your voice coming through the substacks since the Jung conference.

The book sounds like such a gem. I love the retrieval of Orpheus as a methodology and way of thinking.

I worked the Orpheus myth closely for a few years, influenced by Ted Hughes, and Lewis Hyde,and Gregory Orr's telling of it, but most of all by Ann Wroe's wonderful book "Orpheus: The Song of Life"

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/410913/orpheus-by-ann-wroe/9781845951689

I used it as a mythopoetic guide to therapy with children and families affected by addiction (which is really of us in a western culture)

And focused in that on the role of the relationship between loss, soul, sorrow and creative expression.

I put the story down in the end, and partly to do with it's ending, so great to hear you bringing some light to it's ending. My key into Orpheus was Nietzsche and the idea that Orpheus is a priest of two gods, Dionysos and Apollo, and that the ending is a kind of reclamation and divinisation of him as Dionysian, as he is torn apart by Maenads in an enactment of the ritual in which the god is also the goat that is sacrificed, hunter and hunted. So i love this passage

"Take the Orphic severed head as marking a crisis for our species, maybe even our endgame, but—according to the myth—not the end of Orpheus. How can we imagine such a metamorphosis? No Orphic poet has gone that far—or maybe, more chillingly, they have, and the music is so inhuman (and inhumane) as to be as yet unheard.

"Maybe the next Orphic poet is the river itself. Or the wind. The clear truth, I would propose, is that Nature has always been the composer and Orpheus the musician. How does the song go on after the singer returns to the elements? Not hard to grasp, if Orpheus was simply their instrument from the beginning, elements singing through the human. And so the transformation— the emptying out—of Orpheus into the elements, and the return of the song to sky and cave, is actually the restoration of song to its origin point. Song, on loan to Orpheus, now back into the Cosmos: music of the spheres."

The return of Orpheus to Nature and Sky as a singing head fits with Dionysos as Zoe, the indestructible life force and the argument between Apollo and Pan as to who plays the best music.

There are other singing heads that feature in myth, I'm thinking of King Raven (Bran) in the Mabinogion, who sings in some ways to establish Albion and to undo the traumatic effect of a bloody war. I think Robert Graves mentions him.

Just throwing some associations out; thanks for the inspirations.

https://www.academia.edu/62714163/Dont_Look_Back_Orpheus_and_the_complicated_grief_of_children_and_young_people_affected_by_alcohol_or_drug_problems_in_their_families_a_reflection_on_the_orpheus_myth_in_relation_to_this_group

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Tom Cheetham's avatar

Oh nice. Thanks for this Toby.

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